For Many Reasons, This Is Probably Not About To Happen

Normandy: they did pay you money to write that article right  not just in meatballs

 me: oh well yeah

 Normandy: but i understand what you’re saying

6:10 PM me: yeah i mean, the price of being known has gotten really low

  i mean the not price, the … reward

  or whatnot

  andy warhol could more accurately have said

  in the future everyone will be famous for $15.

6:11 PM Normandy: first you have to pay $15 then you get paid $15

 me: ha!

6:12 PM Normandy: but you see your name in print! or like, your butt on the internet or something…

 me: i guess i am jaded

  but the thrill of seeing my butt on the internet has paled

6:13 PM ditto my name in print.

  i mean it would be different, i think, if my name in print was associated with like happiness

 Normandy: you’re not like “oh my god! it’s my very own butt” anymore?

6:14 PM me: i don’t know if i would even recognize it actually

6:15 PM i mean who knows what her own butt looks like, besides models and porn stars

 Normandy: what would have to happen at this point for your name in print to be a gladdening thing?

 me:me:Emily Gould Saves Baby From Being Hit By Bus

6:16 PM 

  A Serious Article About Something Important by Emily Gould

6:17 PM Normandy: Emily Gould: Turns Out Her Detractors Are Idiots

6:18 PM 

 For Shame: Why Gawker Media Owes Emily Gould an Apology

  in harpers

16 comments to For Many Reasons, This Is Probably Not About To Happen

  • ow a paper cut

    You’re too close to it. In time your perspective may change. Keep writing

  • ow a paper cut

    Do you realize that if I changed my syntax to Amish I’d be Yoda? Too close to it you are….

  • Bill Guy

    I think Rich said it best: Fuck all the Haters

  • Alfredo de la Rosa

    Your perceptions aside, there are a gazillion antennae out there wired to individual differences in receptivity. Get it behind you. Don’t you know that a writer getting responses to her work in the volume you did is on the money.

  • Jack McKee

    the usual multifaceted reflections of comfortable advice…where’s the other 90%?

  • Mir

    why did you delete your chat with ruth?

  • Hey Jack — what have you written today? Better yet, learn me this: What’s “multifaceted” about “comfortable”? The wide selection of attachments to your vibrator?

    Shy away from the big words, Jack,
    “multi”-anything is obviously far beyond your grasp.
    Sans a halfway decent vocabulary, or battery of lawyers at your back,
    big words like that might just crawl up to bite you in the ass.

  • Dr Bob

    Dear Emily,

    I approached your NYT article as an unprejudiced reader. It struck me as well written, with a lively, fluid and economical style. You have the ability to evoke characters and situations with a few telling details. Your own thoughts and reactions occur in the context of the events described: thus, your voice becomes one of several, that of a character in the text rather than that of the controlling, omniscient author. You observe astutely the situation of your generation’s involvement with the new communication technologies of the Internet, exposing the tensions and dilemmas without proposing facile solutions. Had it been presented as a short story, the exploration of the intimate side of the narrator’s life would have been accepted as entirely appropriate. However, I explained in an earlier post why I believe that writing about oneself necessarily involves artifice: the textual self is not identical to the authorial self, which is what makes a dialogic relation between the two possible.

    It seems ironic that many New York Times readers, wishing to condemn what they see as the superficiality of online culture, should have reacted to a thoughtful, intelligent article with the unreflective, visceral immediacy that they apparently despise.

    All best wishes.

  • SuperBien

    I think you should write more fiction because you tell stories wonderfully. Maybe something chick-lit-y and involving your interests in yoga, food, and tats + stuff? Also, craft it to ease its translation into a rom com movie script that Gael García Bernal and Emily Blunt star in . . .

  • Dr Bob

    Anyway, Emily, your piece WAS “a Serious Article About Something Important”.

    What some serious conservative commentators fear may be lost in what is seen as the continuous partial attention culture of the Internet, the culture of soundbite and instant unreflective reaction, is in the quality of critical attention which allows us truly to integrate the other’s point of view. Marcel Proust, in ‘Sur la lecture’ (1906), saw the world of books as an intellectual sanctuary in which people have access to a multitude of different realities which they might never otherwise have encountered or understood, and described the communion with another’s mind which thereby becomes possible, which is more than the mere absorption of ideas: we then become aware that “our wisdom begins where that of the author ends, and we would like him to give us answers when all he can give us is desires” (my translation ). That is true dialogue. However, ironically, it is the very quality that Socrates feared would be lost through the introduction of writing (see Plato’s Phaedrus).

    Clay Shirky made a good point in his recent book ‘Here Comes Everybody’:
    “Arguments about whether new forms of sharing or collaboration are, on balance, good or bad reveal more about the speaker than the subject…When a real revolution is going on… net value is problematic. Societies before and after revolution are too different to be readily compared; it’s simple to say that society was transformed by the printing press or the telegraph, but harder to claim that it was made better. The transformation was so general that the virtues and vices of the cultures with and without printing press or telephones are not directly comparable.” (p.297-298).

    As I have already said, you managed to explore aspects of this emerging culture in an intelligent, literary way.

    Conclusion: Emily Gould HAS WRITTEN ‘A Serious Article About Something Important’.

    Furthermore, re my post above: ‘Turns Out Her Detractors Are Idiots’.

  • Dr Bob

    Are you satisfied that two of your wishes have come true?

    Unfortunately, I can’t help you with saving babies, and I don’t have much influence in Harper’s Magazine.

    Perhaps some of your other readers could help with these?

  • Jane

    Dr Bob wants to touch it, I think.

  • 7766333ooabc

    Why not take out a small loan and start a magazine? I came to this blog because of curiosity resulting from the NYT fiasco. I’d never even heard of Gawker. At the end of the day, you keep an interesting blog, so now I come by and read it. Because it’s fun to read, nothing more and nothing less. On the other hand, all the people that say “That sounds familiar” makes it look you’re the first person to bring everyday blog drama to the top tier of mainstream media. If you don’t think that’s funny…

    Starting your own magazine (whether web, print, or both) is something that whether you do it well or not would be almost entirely in your hands. You could pursue it and not have to worry about the noise. I think all the To-Do About Nothing says it’s not a matter of if you’d be able to publish a good magazine, but if you want to.

    That suggestion may be unsolicited, but for what it’s worth, it’s a fairly selfish request. I wouldn’t mind another quality periodical on the market.


  • Go out, talk to people, find an Important Serious Story and write it. Everyone’ll forget the rest soon enough.

  • tammy

    “first you have to pay $15 then you get paid $15″

    Maybe more like, “first you get paid $15, then you have to pay $15″?

    Just seems more likely.

    funny tho.

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